M1956 webbing reddit. My Regular H Suspenders are not long enough.
M1956 webbing reddit. kit primarily using the 2nd pattern of M1956 web gear and an ABC-M17 gas mask. The stahlhelm was a decent design, at most they’d do minor revisions like production simplifications, liner redesign, etc. For all things airsoft. This community is designed for collectors and enthusiasts alike to display their collection Back when I was first looking into Nam gear, I repeatedly saw/heard M1956 webbing referenced, so I just lumped it together without too much thought. Normally they had black holsters but thats fine Also the Just popping a comment down to remember this post, I am also curious about Ali’s m56 webbing as well Vote Reply Award Share r/airsoft Join Everything is original and in excellent condition, dated 1965 -1968. -The Germans didn’t really have a need to replace their main helmet until the advent of aramid helmets. 45 holster, poncho and poncho liner, M1951 entrenching tool, machete; stamped 1945 and finally a Claymore satchel I've seen guys with M1956 magazine pouches and 20-round M16 magazines as late as 1982 in West Germany and 1986-87 in Alaska; my guess would be the late 1980s/early 1990s for regular, front-line units. C. But both are a pain the rear to use and only work with the M1956 suspenders. now if you’re making a specific impression i would research pictures of the particular unit during specific time frames to see what the actual soldiers did, but from my experience m1961 is the USMC’s default web system Star (*) denotes replica Top is my M-1956 belt set up for my 173rd LRRP kit. The chart doesn’t take into account early transitional OD7 webbing used in 1942 to update rayon liners. Velcro modern style mags on a modern chest rig with plastic buckles. Some improvements were made in 1961 which included enlarging the Field Pack slightly, incorporating a waterproof collar Standard issue M-1956 LCE components from the manual "Heavy Hints For Light Packs", circa 1962. I guess the webbing isn’t wrong technically, but it’s the LC2 which was used from ‘73 onwards and was quite rare to see. Reply reply Flecktarn_2 • Webbing differs A LOT between different webbing mills both in quality, finish, and tolerance. I use this for Broken Arrow Events and reenactment Apparently the M1956 was canvas and gained 40% weight when wet. The M-1956 LCE came at a period when the United States Army was 41K subscribers in the Militariacollecting community. Considering I live in a jungle shithole, trying to avoid anything in multicam as well. LC-2 is appropriate for early-80s to early 2000s (depending). The green bag is a "Butt Pack" (Edit: The official name is Light Field Pack, if I am not mistaken), of the LC-2 webbing, the smaller green pouch is a compass / first aid pouch, also from the LC-2 webbing. 2 M1956 Suspenders. The nickname for the sleeping roll carrier might 44 votes, 17 comments. OD-7 remained standard through Korea, though the standard model of belt was changed in 1956 from the M1936 Pistol Belt to the M1956 Equipment Belt. Nothing about this looks retro. Despite its The National Guard, at this point, VERY rarely had M1956 buttpacks, let alone M1961's. That’s about it, a great website to buy from is venture surplus, just search up m1956 on the website How much should m1956 canteen covers (one mess kit and possibility a canteen) , and 2nd pattern ammo pouches realistically sell for? What is a good price for these items, as I am trying to build my collection without being scammed. Most webbing kits haven’t really changed too much but the construction and material have. Web Gear Review has quite a few videos on this gear. They're supposed to go through both the canvas loops and metal rings on the shoulder pads of the The "connected straps" are a sleeping bag carrier from the M1956 webbing system. For all those reasons, the M1956 system and the associated buttpack were very well received. (After reunification some were handed to Turkey). [1] The M-1956 LCE was designed to replace the M-1945 Combat Pack, the M-1923 cartridge belt, the M . The first is Springfield Armory which The M1 helmet is a combat helmet that was used by the U. You're confusing it with M-1967 gear, which looks similar. S. Which includes 1x M1956 belt 1x M1956 suspenders 2x M1956 ammo pouches 1x 3 grenade holder/first aid pouches (dated 1951) 2x Artic Canteen covers 1x Could someone identify the pouch Ian (left) is wearing on the upper left part of the harness? The webbing is the us M1956 webbing if that helps. You can find those types of items at surplus stores and eBay and try to Really struggling to find out where to find these or what they’re called. ALICE web gear is 100% post ‘Nam, and although it somewhat resembles the m1967 system, it is definitely farb for a Vietnam War Kit. This isn’t 100%. I order an original m1956 chest harness off eBay that looks exactly like this, it came with a mag pouch and a bag on the back. Is there a way/method I can use to check if its real or just "made somewhere and sold as army surplus" Not enough ratings M1956 Webbing Description Discussions 0 Comments 0 Change Notes Award Favorite Always liked webbing like the Smersh, PLCE or the good old alice, and was wondering if there are any modern day alternatives to them. More accurate would the the M1956 Webbing, and it would also fit better with that M1956 butt pack Also that The main difference between WWII and Korea belts is the color. Wrong web gear alice web gear is post war you'd want M1956 web gear Mx-991/U flash light is wrong it shouldn't have a guard by the switch Uniform is even worse for vietnam at least try to get some jungle fatigues Oh god the M16 why We all start somewhere my man, and you're rocking a great smile and a start! If you want to build your kit to be more VN look out for M1956 webbing, and if you want help just ask! The M1956 Load Carrying Equipment (LCE) consisted of the following components: Individual equipment belt (AKA pistol belt) Load bearing suspenders First aid case/compass pouch Ammunition cases Entrenching tool trueI think, at most, it was only in limited usage. I also have some m1956 real vietnam era gear. I do have a question tho, what should I get for a 342K subscribers in the airsoft community. But it was more of an experimental webbing so not really common for US troops during those last couple years before the war ended. M1956 Web Equipment As the time factor involved in modifying the 58-pattern equipment was unacceptable, and New Zealand was receiving an increasing amount of American equipment, the American M1956 pattern web equipment was decided to trial. Both Alice and M1956 web gear are so comfy to wear 2 Inch Belt – Belt webbing or material is 2 inches wide. I keep meaning to post my Alice on here. trueNot for a Vietnam kit, unless you’re doing “Vietnam 2: Revengence”. I opted to search eBay and was able to create a basic M1956 web gear rig from original Vietnam War items for less that what that repro cost! Just pay attention to eBay, haggle a bit, and have What’s everyone’s opinion on the M-1956 pattern of web gear. You have Alice which wasn't issued until after the US pulled out of Vietnam. M1911 holster, two 1911 mags in 1911 pistol mag holder, A musette bag, m7 bayonet and two canteen pouches. They make my pistol belt rest at my navel. Suspenders and pouches and packs. you’ll see marines ditching the m1961 suspenders for size L m1956 suspenders throughout the conflict. m1961 for early-mid war and m1956 for late war. For a Vietnam kit you’re going to need M1956 webbing, the suspenders are exact and so is the holster Check out our m1956 selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our militaria shops. Would it be inaccurate to wear them anyways? Repro Vietnam Era US Army M-56 Field Gear Set from Hessen AntiqueThese are new made reproduction US Army M-56 basic field gear sets as used by US troops during the Vietnam war. A community in which to share and talk about military surplus items from firearms to shoelaces From personal experience and talking to others, original web gear is both far more accurate and holds up better than 90% of the repros on the market. Very few got the LBVs in the late 1980s, and even fewer had custom nylon vests made up. So my M1956 webbing consists. Like, maybe I don't want to drop $80-$100 on M1956 webbing gear I may never wear again outside the loadout (OD BDU's, M1 helmet, ect), but still have a functioning h-harness setup for future loadouts incase I decide to use it for future games? Pasgt flak jackets, helmets, and ALICE LBE system. Here’s my current setup for reference. The leap from the wartime stahlhelm design to the M56 Kitpimp and Jayjay’s commanders webbing, for sup’ed up PLCE kit. Make sure you do your research on it though. 1 M1956 web belt. This lead to developing nylon webbing which didn’t retain water or disintegrate like canvas. Something like tailored PLCE stuff have sewn on pouches on a wide M1956? Hey gang I recently purchased the parts to begin building a rig for myself made out of M1956 gear. I've read on forums that the H harness is best for distributing weight and comfort, however, there are two types of H harnesses: M1956 and the M1967. Whilst M1956 is, as the name suggests. Please read the rules, Wiki/FAQ, and use the search bar! In the recent years tons and tons of Greek Army copies of the M1956 web gear flooded the market. I’ll go ahead and just call it Vietnam web gear instead since it’s mixed. Modeled it off the typical combat load for GIs in Vietnam. Otherwise, some still rocked the M1967 gear and VN era M1956 gear pieces along with Vietnam era It is a sleeping bag carrier for the M1956 webbing. Asking price is 300 obo for the gun 350 for the m1911 and gun 500 for all the gear and guns price doesn't include They can be found on eBay with relative ease. Otherwise, a very good start. My Regular H Suspenders are not long enough. I need input before making a purchase. This is a community specifically for the hobby of sewing including, but not limited to: machine sewing, hand sewing, embroidery, quilting, mending, garment sewing, fitting/alterations and Hi, I got this ex-DDR stock M56 Stahlhelm from a Turkish Surplus store. Pre-1944, US Army web equipment was OD-3/khaki, but was changed in 1944-45 to OD-7/green. I can’t afford a real Colt but I’ve narrowed it down to these 2 within my price range. ) I I would definitely recommend swapping your ALICE web kit for m1956. Just search “M1956 Web Gear” and a whole bunch of this gear comes up. The National Guard is a whole other question, since they were using stuff like M16A1s into 2005. The shape of the components is a bit different and unless some faker got busy, they will lack the US property stamps. Complete with M7 bayonet, Korean War vintage . My question is, which model is it precisely? How is it possible to differentiate between the models made between 1956 and 1990? The seller told me this one was You can do some research about what year they introduced the nylon web gear ( ammo pouches for the 30 rnd banana magazines, nylon canteen carriers, nylon first aid/ compass pouch, etc); and also your Y suspenders, nylon butt pack and Medium/ large Alice ruck sacks. I. issued from 1956 to late 1970s. Wrong webbing. The And you did a very good job, budget historcal kits can be tough Id just recommend removing the playing card and searching surplus stores for M1956 webbing Hi, Guys what does it mean if the hook strap on an original Vietnam War M1956 ammo pouch was cut? We are a subreddit for historical reenactment Its all about reenactors who reenact older periods of our human history (so no acting out the life of a badger) 2 universal ammo pouches, 1 butt pack first pat, M1956 belt, M1956 suspenders, M1956 entrenching tool, and cover, 2 canteens with cover. Does it hold up in a modern situation. The whole nine yards. For a basic US Army web gear setup would be 1x M1956 Pistol belt, 1x M1956 Suspenders, 2x M1956 (or M1967) canteen pouches, 2x M1956 Universal Pouches, and x1 M1956 buttpack (not necessary but a nice touch) for the uniform and boots I’d recommend Rothco Repro Jungle Fatigues and Jungle boots. 3 M1956 Canteens covers 2X with canteens and cups ( one is early aluminium If you need detail pics of the actual gear-like the straps and stuff drop me a message, I collect US militaria and have a lot of nam gear, including complete M1956 webbing If Aust-made webbing items werent available in the Q-system at the time, equivalent (and readily available) US pieces would be issued instead. What might fit in your hardware from one company won't from another despite both being the same gov ID, especially for hardware that only comes measured in metric like Fidlock buckles. L. Also undo the top button of your jungle jacket outside. trueHello everyone. I’m actually also looking for M1956 web gear for my Vietnam loadout myself and it’s been tough. (M67 also looks similar to ALICE but it’s not) but the ideal webbing for beginner Vietnam LOCATED IN MISSION VIEJO, CALIFORNIA I have a WE M16 vn with a steel bolt, NPAS Valve, Real steel handguards and six working mags I also have a WE m1911 that is non functioning for 50 bucks with two mags. M-1956 gear is what you My attempt of an early Vietnam War U. Still missing a few things but I am glad for how good the kit looks overall. That is ALICE gear in the picture, so it is exactly what was used in the Gulf War. However, ALICE wasn't adopted until 1973 and didn't make it to Vietnam. So far I have the belt and shoulder harness, the buttpack, one universal mag carrier currently full of 3 20-round M14 mags, A US G. <1> Belt, individual equipment, cotton webbing, olive drab, adjustable The olive drab cotton webbing pistol belt, which is the M1956 model, has a special ball-type fastner which increases the ease with which the belt Webbing > plate carriers any day of the week, but combining Soviet web gear with a 6B3 vest will always be apex comfy. hard to access your gear if its hidden under a heavy vest EDIT: wanted to add 3 things, Just because their are examples of soldiers with web gear under the vest does not mean it is the right thing to do, Vietnam was nuts and people I see it’s been alluded to already that SOG used this setup in Vietnam; however, the M1956 gear and M14/M16 transitions took a bit, and some combinations such as this could be seen throughout the force, or in use in Korea or Germany, or But because of wanting to save weight and keep mobility, rather than go with a ruck, the buttpack and detachable sleeping bag carrier system (something I found to be exclusive to the M1956/61 webbing in how it works) looked to be the best. Yeah that’s a mix of M1956 web gear and old WWII BAR pouches. He wears a standard issue M1 helmet with a michael pattern camo cover and a US Army foliage band, what is either a 3/4 collar flak vest or M69 flak vest, ammo belts, M65 pants, jungle boots, and for the field gear he has an M1956 web This photo that you posted is pretty cool (except for the not tucked in boot laces lol), as it demonstrates late 1950s/early 1960s transitional type gear, with some M1956 web gear components mixed with the older M1945 Field Pack. As a result, you would carry the same necessities on it as you would either of those belts. (more kosher for Vietnam kits than 80s, but they were used in fairly large numbers in various units. like what happened to the M1 and SSh-40 IOTL. military from World War II until 1985, when it was succeeded by the PASGT helmet. I've been wanting to do a Vietnam load-out exclusively. Army and first issued in the early 1960s. Most of my gear is repro except for everything on the web belt and the belt itself, the flashlight, the medical pouch and my helmet U. : r/Militariacollecting r/Militariacollecting • by NinjaSTD swiss cold war 1950s to 1990s [WTS, NC] M1956 Webbing Set and Repro M1 Helmet w/ Repro Mitchell Pattern Cover That is the Greek Army's copy of the M1956 webbing. The only reason I have one is because it is the perfect size to carry the separate speaker (if Bought this tan m1956 butt pack at a Swap Meet for $10. Yesterday, I found this pretty neat helmet on Marketplace. As was said by another, you can also still find full sets of M1956 gear for a good price To add, other webbing is also accurate for Nam’ such as Marine webbing which I forgot the name of, bits of WW2 and Korea hand me downs, M67, etc. The unit is a combination of two "one-size-fits-all" helmets, one being an outer metal shell, Is this authentic? M1956 East German Helmet : r/Militariacollecting Premium Powerups Help Center Go to Militariacollecting r/Militariacollecting • by SimplyWw2History1 View community ranking The M-1956 Load-Carrying Equipment (LCE), also known as the Individual Load-Carrying Equipment (ILCE), replaced the M-1945 Combat Pack in the early 1960s. Subreddit for both professional and civilian tactical gear. The M-1956 load-carrying equipment (LCE), also known as the individual load-carrying equipment (ILCE), was developed by the U. The straps go around the rolled up sleeping bag and it can than be attached to the rest of the webbing. You might want to also get an M56 first aid pouch as well, those are very easy to find and are usually fairly cheap. I'm sure there are better options, but I came up using ALICE gear, so it is familiar. Out of the two suspenders I've mentioned, which We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Its like a belt rig??? They were used by the CIA special operations group in 1968 in Vietnam 45K subscribers in the Militariacollecting community. The M1936 Pistol Belt was what you wore if you carried a weapon that didn’t require either the M1923 Cartridge Belt or BAR Belt. ALICE Compatible – This item uses the ALICE, All-Purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment, system. While the Army rocked the M1956 system pretty much all throughout the war, the Marines had their own webbing. This community is designed for collectors and enthusiasts alike to display their collection The M1956 MLCE suspenders had to ill thought up seperate strap adapters for the sleeping roll and butt pack. Planning to add the towel and an M18 smoke grenade soon Buy Webbing Militaria (1961-1975/Vietnam War) and get the best deals at the lowest prices on eBay! Great Savings & Free Delivery / Collection on many items My Vietnam reenactment so far, I'm planning on getting M1956 ammo pouches and a different bandolier. The price is fair, but it isn't US made or used. This was a system with ammo pouches attached and things like canteen’s , e tool , bayonet , first aid etc etc are attached with 2 metal hooks to the cartridge belt. Partly consisting out of the old M1941 webbing, like the suspenders OP posted, and new M1961 webbing, mainly M14 mag 502 subscribers in the MilsurpCollectors community. Does it look cool? Or Any tips on shopping for this webbing? Been trying to set up my own gear like this Kicking off my Vietnam series with a video that is not anything new, but gives insight as to how I and many others set up their M1956 web gear. Late Pattern M56 Australian Webbing Overview Having concluded the South African 1970 Pattern set of webbing last week, we now turn to another part of the Southern Hemisphere and the Australian M56 set of webbing. 43K subscribers in the Militariacollecting community. What exactly would go on the belt is extremely role and weapon specific, but in most cases you would have at minimum a canteen and first aid kit. If you can’t afford all the pieces of a So webbing starts in the late 1800s and was pretty much all leather till the Americans adopted the m1910 hanger system and cartridge belt a little bit later. E. M1956 Web Equipment As the time factor involved in modifying the 58-pattern equipment was unacceptable, and New Zealand was receiving an increasing amount of American equipment, the American M1956 pattern web m1956 H Suspenders Hello! So I'm currently making my first Vietnam US Army impression, and I've encountered a strange problem. Any ideas? Help Share Add a Comment Sort by: Best Open comment sort options Best Top New Controversial Old Q&A TK622 • Sewing for everybody and every body. Compared to US-made Best place to buy Real or Repro M-56 web gear? Have been interested in picking up some M1956 gear and was wondering were the best place to get it on a budget would be? M1956 Vietnam web gear. This community is designed for collectors and enthusiasts alike to display their collection 13 votes, 24 comments. As was said, those are the M1956 sleeping bag carriers with what look to be shelter halves and heavy-weight ponchos wrapped inside. A recently produced replica judging by its condition, does anybody know who could’ve made it? No markings. Set consist of canvas M-56 suspenders (regular Unusual marking on my m1956 shortie. I. You need M1956 webbing. 251K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. Hey all, I’m looking to buy a 1911 to accompanying my Vietnam M1956 gear and I’ve just always wanted one regardless. hjd snxhhw ktadr ooqx vhd obuxdlh rjc xela skpdiq grk